номер на пина на оборотомера
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номер на пина на оборотомера
Здравейте, пиша тази тема от името на познат. Момчето има е46 320ци със 170кс. Сега си сложи 2.5 от е36. Всичко е ок, но не може да подкара оборотомера. На кой пин и коя букса(ако са повече от една) от инструменталното табло трябва да се подаде сигнала от м50тката за да му тръгне оборотомера.
Благодаря предварително!
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Re: номер на пина на оборотомера
Колега таблото на е46 цата чете оборотите по К-линията с 2 думи няма отделна букса отзад на 2 те която да отговаря на оборотите!
Ето 2 те букси отзад за какво са:
http://www.bmwgm5.com/E46_IKE_Connections.htm
Понеже сега се занимавам с разни проекти за отделен обортомер на колата мога да споделя какво знам до сега и дано да съм ти от полза.
Накратко сигнала го взимат според мен от Датчика на коляновият вал. и го вкарват в компа като сигнал до тук добре.
Сигнала е правоъгълен с определена честота: приблизително : 32 херца = 650 оборота, 50 херца =1000 оборота 100 херца = 2000 оборота и така на татък:
Не знам при е36 какъв е сигнала смисъл дали е от 0-5Волта или е 0 - 12 Волта.. има значение.
Бях мерил сигнала на една Е90 ка и сигнала го взимаха от ПИН17 беше за скороста ,а пин 21 (черна жица ) беше за оборотите:
Мисля ,че от ОБД 2 то на пин 10 също взимаха сигнала за оборотите при е90.
При е36 нещата са така: незнам с какъв комп е колата според мотора: ето за S50 B32:



Според тая информация за тоя мотор и тва еку сигнала за оборотите ти е на пин номер "43"
При е46 нещата са така: за MS43

E=Input
A=Output
M=Ground
2 - X60001 9-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 1
1 A 15 Activate relay Relay, injection valves
2 Not used
3 Not used
4 M 31E Ground Ground point
5 M 31L Ground Ground point
6 M 31L Ground Ground point
7 E 30 Voltage supply B+ junction point E-box
8 E U_HR<2 Voltage supply Fuse holder in E-box
9 Not used
3 - X60002 24-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 2
1 M T_LHV1 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 1 (in front of catalytic converter)
2 Not used
3 E/A D_CAN-L CAN bus low Transmission control module (EGS)
4 E/A D_CAN-H CAN bus high Transmission control module (EGS)
5 Not used
6 E/A D_TXD2 Diagnosis Transmission control module (EGS)
7 M T_LHH1 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 1 (behind catalytic converter)
8 Not used
9 Not used
10 Not used
11 Not used
12 Not used
13 M T_LHV2 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 2 (in front of catalytic converter)
14 E A_LSV1 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 1 (in front of catalytic converter)
15 E A_LSV2 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 2 (in front of catalytic converter)
16 E A_LSH1 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 1 (behind catalytic converter)
17 Not used
18 E A_LSH2 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 2 (behind catalytic converter)
19 M T_LHH2 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 2 (behind catalytic converter)
20 M M_LSV1 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 1 (in front of catalytic converter)
21 M M_LSV2 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 2 (in front of catalytic converter)
22 M M_LSH1 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 1 (behind catalytic converter)
23 A S_HR Activate relay Engine control module relay
24 M M_LSH2 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 2 (behind catalytic converter)
4 - X60003 52-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 3
1 E A_HFM Signal air mass meter Hot film air mass meter
2 E P_NWGA1 Signal camshaft position Camshaft position sensor 2 (outlet)
3 Not used
4 Not used
5 E P_NWGE1 Signal camshaft position Camshaft position sensor 1 (inlet)
6 Not used
7 A U_DKG Voltage supply Electrical gas actuator
8 E P_KWG Signal crankshaft position Crankshaft position sensor
9 Not used
10 E A_DKG2 Throttle position signal 2 Electrical gas actuator
11 Not used
12 Not used
13 Not used
14 Not used
15 M M_NWGA1 Ground Camshaft position sensor 2 (outlet)
16 Not used
17 M M_HFM Ground Hot film air massmeter
18 M M_NWGE1 Ground Crankshaft position sensor 1 (inlet)
19 E A_DKG1 Throttle position signal 1 Electrical gas actuator
20 M M_DKG Ground Electrical gas actuator
21 M M_KWG Ground Crankshaft position sensor
22 E A_TANS Temperature signal Intake air temperature sensor
23 M M_TANS Ground Intake air temperature sensor
24 E A_TMOT Temperature signal Engine coolant temperature sensor
25 M M_TMOT Ground Engine coolant temperature sensor
26 Not used
27 E A_TOEL Temperature signal Oil temperature sensor
28 M M_TOEL Ground Oil temperature sensor
29 E A_KS1A Cyl. 1-3 knock sensor Double knock sensor
30 E A_KS1B Cyl. 1-3 knock sensor Double knock sensor
31 E A_KS2A Cyl. 4-6 knock sensor Double knock sensor
32 E A_KS2B Cyl. 4-6 knock sensor Double knock sensor
33 A P_EVZ1 Activate valve Cyl. 1 fuel injection valve
34 A P_EVZ2 Activate valve Cyl. 2 fuel injection valve
35 A P_EVZ3 Activate valve Cyl. 3 fuel injection valve
36 A P_EVZ4 Activate valve Cyl. 4 fuel injection valve
37 A P_EVZ5 Activate valve Cyl. 5 fuel injection valve
38 A P_EVZ6 Activate valve Cyl. 6 fuel injection valve
39 Not used
40 A T_NWE1 Activate valve Variable camshaft control valve 1 (inlet)
41 A T_NWA1 Activate valve Variable camshaft control valve 2 (outlet)
42 A T_TEV Activate valve Evaporative emission valve
43 A T_MDK1 Activate motor Throttle position actuator
44 A T_MDK2 Activate motor Throttle position actuator
45 A S_KFK Cooling signal Thermostat, characteristic map cooling
46 A T_LLFSS CLOSE signal Idle speed control valve
47 A T_LLFSO OPEN signal Idle speed control valve
48 M W_KS Ground Shield knock sensor
49 A S_DISA Activate valve Valve, individual control intake system
50 Not used
51 Not used
52 A S_SLPV Activate valve Secondary air pump valve
5 - X60004 40-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 4
1 Not used
2 Not used
3 A S_SLP Activate relay Secondary air pump relay
4 Not used
5 Not used
6 Not used
7 M M_FWG1 Ground Pedal position sensor
8 E A_FWG1 Signal, pedal position 1 Pedal position sensor
9 A U_FWG1 Voltage supply Pedal position sensor
10 A EKP Activate relay Fuel pump relay
11 Not used
12 M M_FWG2 Ground Pedal position sensor
13 E A_FWG2 Signal, pedal position 2 Pedal position sensor
14 A U_FWG2 Voltage supply Pedal position sensor
15 Not used
16 Not used
17 A TD Crankshaft RPM speed signal (TD) Electronic immobilizer control module (EWS III)/Thermal oil level sensor (TOENS) control module
18 Not used
19 Not used
20 A S_DMTL Voltage supply Leakage diagnosis pump
21 Not used
22 E DFAHR Speed signal right rear ABS/ASC/DSC control module
23 E KUPP Clutch signal Clutch switch
24 E KL 54 ON Brake signal Brake light switch
25 Not used
26 E 15A26 Terminal 15 Fuse 26
27 E MFL Cruise control signal Cruise control interface
28 E S_BLTS Brake signal Brake light switch
29 A S_KOREL Activate relay Compressor control relay
30 A S_UVTL Activate changeover valve Leakage diagnosis pump
31 Not used
32 E/A TXDII TXD diagnosis data link Data link connector
33 E S_DWA Drive-away protection signal (code) Electronic immobilizer control module (EWS III)
34 Not used
35 M 31 Ground Cruise control interface
36 E/A CAN+ CAN bus high Instrument cluster, ABS/ASC/DSC control module, steering angle sensor
37 E/A CAN- CAN bus low Instrument cluster, ABS/ASC/DSC control module, steering angle sensor
38 Not used
39 Not used
40 Not used
6 - X60005 9-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 5
1 A P_ZSZ3 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 3 ignition coil
2 A P_ZSZ2 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 2 ignition coil
3 A P_ZSZ1 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 1 ignition coil
4 Not used
5 M 31L Ground Ground point
6 M A_ZSR Ground Ground point
7 A P_ZSZ6 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 6 ignition coil
8 A P_ZSZ5 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 5 ignition coil
9 A P_ZSZ4 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 4 ignition coil
П.П надявам се съм помогнал
моят проект е в зарадиш още но каквото и да правиш препоръчително е да снемеш една осцилограма преди да правиш разни неща ,закачи един осцилоскоп за всеки случай 
Ето 2 те букси отзад за какво са:
http://www.bmwgm5.com/E46_IKE_Connections.htm
Понеже сега се занимавам с разни проекти за отделен обортомер на колата мога да споделя какво знам до сега и дано да съм ти от полза.
Накратко сигнала го взимат според мен от Датчика на коляновият вал. и го вкарват в компа като сигнал до тук добре.
Сигнала е правоъгълен с определена честота: приблизително : 32 херца = 650 оборота, 50 херца =1000 оборота 100 херца = 2000 оборота и така на татък:
Не знам при е36 какъв е сигнала смисъл дали е от 0-5Волта или е 0 - 12 Волта.. има значение.
Бях мерил сигнала на една Е90 ка и сигнала го взимаха от ПИН17 беше за скороста ,а пин 21 (черна жица ) беше за оборотите:
Мисля ,че от ОБД 2 то на пин 10 също взимаха сигнала за оборотите при е90.
При е36 нещата са така: незнам с какъв комп е колата според мотора: ето за S50 B32:




Според тая информация за тоя мотор и тва еку сигнала за оборотите ти е на пин номер "43"
При е46 нещата са така: за MS43

E=Input
A=Output
M=Ground
2 - X60001 9-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 1
1 A 15 Activate relay Relay, injection valves
2 Not used
3 Not used
4 M 31E Ground Ground point
5 M 31L Ground Ground point
6 M 31L Ground Ground point
7 E 30 Voltage supply B+ junction point E-box
8 E U_HR<2 Voltage supply Fuse holder in E-box
9 Not used
3 - X60002 24-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 2
1 M T_LHV1 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 1 (in front of catalytic converter)
2 Not used
3 E/A D_CAN-L CAN bus low Transmission control module (EGS)
4 E/A D_CAN-H CAN bus high Transmission control module (EGS)
5 Not used
6 E/A D_TXD2 Diagnosis Transmission control module (EGS)
7 M T_LHH1 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 1 (behind catalytic converter)
8 Not used
9 Not used
10 Not used
11 Not used
12 Not used
13 M T_LHV2 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 2 (in front of catalytic converter)
14 E A_LSV1 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 1 (in front of catalytic converter)
15 E A_LSV2 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 2 (in front of catalytic converter)
16 E A_LSH1 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 1 (behind catalytic converter)
17 Not used
18 E A_LSH2 Sensor signal Oxygen sensor 2 (behind catalytic converter)
19 M T_LHH2 Oxygen sensor heating ground Oxygen sensor 2 (behind catalytic converter)
20 M M_LSV1 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 1 (in front of catalytic converter)
21 M M_LSV2 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 2 (in front of catalytic converter)
22 M M_LSH1 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 1 (behind catalytic converter)
23 A S_HR Activate relay Engine control module relay
24 M M_LSH2 Signal ground Oxygen sensor 2 (behind catalytic converter)
4 - X60003 52-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 3
1 E A_HFM Signal air mass meter Hot film air mass meter
2 E P_NWGA1 Signal camshaft position Camshaft position sensor 2 (outlet)
3 Not used
4 Not used
5 E P_NWGE1 Signal camshaft position Camshaft position sensor 1 (inlet)
6 Not used
7 A U_DKG Voltage supply Electrical gas actuator
8 E P_KWG Signal crankshaft position Crankshaft position sensor
9 Not used
10 E A_DKG2 Throttle position signal 2 Electrical gas actuator
11 Not used
12 Not used
13 Not used
14 Not used
15 M M_NWGA1 Ground Camshaft position sensor 2 (outlet)
16 Not used
17 M M_HFM Ground Hot film air massmeter
18 M M_NWGE1 Ground Crankshaft position sensor 1 (inlet)
19 E A_DKG1 Throttle position signal 1 Electrical gas actuator
20 M M_DKG Ground Electrical gas actuator
21 M M_KWG Ground Crankshaft position sensor
22 E A_TANS Temperature signal Intake air temperature sensor
23 M M_TANS Ground Intake air temperature sensor
24 E A_TMOT Temperature signal Engine coolant temperature sensor
25 M M_TMOT Ground Engine coolant temperature sensor
26 Not used
27 E A_TOEL Temperature signal Oil temperature sensor
28 M M_TOEL Ground Oil temperature sensor
29 E A_KS1A Cyl. 1-3 knock sensor Double knock sensor
30 E A_KS1B Cyl. 1-3 knock sensor Double knock sensor
31 E A_KS2A Cyl. 4-6 knock sensor Double knock sensor
32 E A_KS2B Cyl. 4-6 knock sensor Double knock sensor
33 A P_EVZ1 Activate valve Cyl. 1 fuel injection valve
34 A P_EVZ2 Activate valve Cyl. 2 fuel injection valve
35 A P_EVZ3 Activate valve Cyl. 3 fuel injection valve
36 A P_EVZ4 Activate valve Cyl. 4 fuel injection valve
37 A P_EVZ5 Activate valve Cyl. 5 fuel injection valve
38 A P_EVZ6 Activate valve Cyl. 6 fuel injection valve
39 Not used
40 A T_NWE1 Activate valve Variable camshaft control valve 1 (inlet)
41 A T_NWA1 Activate valve Variable camshaft control valve 2 (outlet)
42 A T_TEV Activate valve Evaporative emission valve
43 A T_MDK1 Activate motor Throttle position actuator
44 A T_MDK2 Activate motor Throttle position actuator
45 A S_KFK Cooling signal Thermostat, characteristic map cooling
46 A T_LLFSS CLOSE signal Idle speed control valve
47 A T_LLFSO OPEN signal Idle speed control valve
48 M W_KS Ground Shield knock sensor
49 A S_DISA Activate valve Valve, individual control intake system
50 Not used
51 Not used
52 A S_SLPV Activate valve Secondary air pump valve
5 - X60004 40-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 4
1 Not used
2 Not used
3 A S_SLP Activate relay Secondary air pump relay
4 Not used
5 Not used
6 Not used
7 M M_FWG1 Ground Pedal position sensor
8 E A_FWG1 Signal, pedal position 1 Pedal position sensor
9 A U_FWG1 Voltage supply Pedal position sensor
10 A EKP Activate relay Fuel pump relay
11 Not used
12 M M_FWG2 Ground Pedal position sensor
13 E A_FWG2 Signal, pedal position 2 Pedal position sensor
14 A U_FWG2 Voltage supply Pedal position sensor
15 Not used
16 Not used
17 A TD Crankshaft RPM speed signal (TD) Electronic immobilizer control module (EWS III)/Thermal oil level sensor (TOENS) control module
18 Not used
19 Not used
20 A S_DMTL Voltage supply Leakage diagnosis pump
21 Not used
22 E DFAHR Speed signal right rear ABS/ASC/DSC control module
23 E KUPP Clutch signal Clutch switch
24 E KL 54 ON Brake signal Brake light switch
25 Not used
26 E 15A26 Terminal 15 Fuse 26
27 E MFL Cruise control signal Cruise control interface
28 E S_BLTS Brake signal Brake light switch
29 A S_KOREL Activate relay Compressor control relay
30 A S_UVTL Activate changeover valve Leakage diagnosis pump
31 Not used
32 E/A TXDII TXD diagnosis data link Data link connector
33 E S_DWA Drive-away protection signal (code) Electronic immobilizer control module (EWS III)
34 Not used
35 M 31 Ground Cruise control interface
36 E/A CAN+ CAN bus high Instrument cluster, ABS/ASC/DSC control module, steering angle sensor
37 E/A CAN- CAN bus low Instrument cluster, ABS/ASC/DSC control module, steering angle sensor
38 Not used
39 Not used
40 Not used
6 - X60005 9-pin, black Plug connector DME control unit Module 5
1 A P_ZSZ3 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 3 ignition coil
2 A P_ZSZ2 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 2 ignition coil
3 A P_ZSZ1 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 1 ignition coil
4 Not used
5 M 31L Ground Ground point
6 M A_ZSR Ground Ground point
7 A P_ZSZ6 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 6 ignition coil
8 A P_ZSZ5 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 5 ignition coil
9 A P_ZSZ4 Ignition coil signal Cyl. 4 ignition coil
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